[She is about as calm talking about having experienced it multiple times as he would have, had it been him trying to explain to her without this context his own experience with it.]
Yeah. Usually, I end up back at the Afterlife hub. We reconstitute any lost Flesh, increase what we've already got using the Meat of the fallen, make ourselves hardier and more capable of surviving longer, build a sand castle, have a bath, and go right back to what we were doing before something turned us into paste. This whole thing, with the nothing filling that time, that feels wrong. I remember talking with others about their own deaths, some people have a dark void and that kinda sucks too. I don't know what's worse actually.
[she eats her ice cream while contemplating what he's talking about, accepting that aspects of it are just going to be complete unknowns. using meat to reinforce the self? weird, but Wayne's world is not her own. maybe it's all things that make more sense once you experience it yourself. Helena nodes a little when he mentions the void, and considers -
no. not now. that's not something you hand to someone who's just trying to figure out how things go.]
Probably the worst would be if that void just kept going. Or waking up where you came from, and wondering if everything that happened here was merely some fantastic dream. Your version sounds the nicest, but...where I come from, you're not supposed to come back. So I suppose I'm seeing it all in a very different light.
[Wayne is slow about eating while she talks, contemplating the idea of the void, and then of simply not coming back at all. The latter is actually a little easier for him to grasp, maybe even a little comforting.]
After a certain point we don't go into the Afterlife hub, we just...return to the earth and our substance ends up recombining into the next generation's larvae. I heard humans have children to make that happen for them but it's a way more direct line of progression. You produce your young while we kind of become them, after a while.
...So at some point, from wherever you've gone back to earth, there's going to be a little Wayne. That's a rather straightforward way about it.
[and functionally, she thinks, a kind of immortality. much in the same way some people think about bloodlines, but more exact. it would eliminate people fussing over needing to have heirs and such, which is always a problem in these historical fiction books she's reading where no one seems to figure out who's going to be doing what after they die.
of course, things like children are probably more on the mind when you haven't been in a resurrection loop for the past however long and then moved to a pocket dimension. right now, the most she can muster up is that children definitely exist.]
It is you, but it isn't you, but it still is, depending on the perspective. No, I might be overthinking this.
It's always going to be a Wayne, even if it's not strictly me. I don't think it'll be exactly me because like, our experiences make us into individuals, but it's conservation of matter in like the most basic form, right? I die now, my matter becomes a couple of new larvae that will be new people in a few cycles. I die after I metamorphose, I get to go on and become even more. Lots of available matter in an Old Wayne.
[Which he can't really accurately describe for her when size is likely harder to parse when you don't have a visual representation in the first place.]
[her eyes widen at the word metamorphose, and even though she's taking a bite of ice cream, the fact that she thinks this is utterly cool is written across her face.]
[There are mixed reviews when he mentions Old Wayne, but at least by and large they've been mostly positive or simply fascinated. He's got another spoonful in his mouth as he tries to decide how to describe it.]
I'll be way bigger. More eyes, more hands, more powerful gestures. Not as much capability of movement though. When you get that large you become kind of cumbersome. But then that's why Old Waynes settle into advisory or guardianship positions.
I talked a little about it with Pratt, what might happen if I were to reach that age before I left this place... If I stay here for too long, will I still physically mature far enough to need to go to ground, or if I'll just adhere to a corner and become a very small Old Wayne because of the complete lack of material besides what my own body provides? The logistics are not in my favor.
If that time approaches, then you'll have me and your other friends around to help you figure out a solution. There's magic on this ship that gives people wings and makes them transform into other things entirely and creating whole new places. I think we could sort something out that would help you become more of you.
[it's a complete unknown, but that's what lets her be optimistic about it. if this ship can do things like help Ava control her power, return the dead that were in another realm altogether, create something from seemingly nothing...then the idea of Wayne somehow becoming Old Wayne working out isn't the most farfetched thing.]
But that all implies we won't figure out a new place to live before that day dawns. Call it silly, but I'm not so resigned to that yet. Regardless, wherever you metamorphose, we'll have to figure out how to celebrate it.
I've been trying to kind of work out the math between what's normal for my world versus yours in the royal sense. How long is it going to be before I get to that point, you know? Klaus posits that perhaps it won't be until you are all old humans. Then if it does, I can protect you since you get very small and fragile.
[He may already have this idea of gathering all of them into what would essentially be a retirement home, when it comes right down to it. Gotta protect your friends when they can't necessarily protect themselves after all.]
That's plenty of time for us to solve the material problem. We'll have it all figured out far before it even has to truly dawn on you, and then we'll be ready to welcome you into your new form.
[a pause, as she eats a strawberry slice.]
If I get smaller when I get older, I'm going to be terribly displeased...
[A good compromise, he feels. He takes a larger bite of his own ice cream at that, and just the same as she had, he ends up with that spike of pain right up behind his eyes. It is the certifiable worst.]
It was kind of uh. Really offended when I called it the same way I do basically everyone. And it didn't like listening to me trying to stay optimistic about the situation when I only just got here. It only tolerated me when I checked in when it got sick.
[Though, he'd ended up staying there quietly hanging out for a while watching its tv show until it had dozed off to make sure it was okay and it was generally polite when that happened, so...progress?]
[so it had been in a more touchy mood that day. hm. she takes the last bite of her ice cream, and leans back a little in her chair.]
Would it surprise you if I said that none of that is actually an indication that it doesn't like you, and more a reflection on it instead?
[call her hopeful, but she'd like her friend and her...companion to get along if possible. she can't fix people's relationships, and nor will she try to force people to hold hands, but give someone a few years in your past, and you know a few more things about them than you did.]
[Wayne's spoon scrapes around the inside of his bowl as he thinks.]
It seems very...dour, I guess. Maybe it's not personal, but it feels bad I can't really do anything about it any more than I can get myself out of here. I can't trust dying to potentially get me home, like you said, and it was saying that potentially finding port somewhere to explore and maybe find answers was a useless endeavor, but I'm just not so sure about that. I know it's been here a lot longer than I have but having no more hope's kind of a sad life to lead.
[she's very, very quiet for a second, tilting her head side to side as if she's straining to hear something, and then nodding.]
Okay, I know it doesn't have a drone nearby, so I can be a little more frank. Security is...a very certain type of person. Do you want me to elaborate?
[When she starts listening really hard, he can't help but glance around, as if he might spot whatever she's searching for. He looks back to her when she speaks up again.]
Drone?
Oh...uh, sure. I mean if it makes things easier to navigate I'd appreciate the help.
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Yeah. Usually, I end up back at the Afterlife hub. We reconstitute any lost Flesh, increase what we've already got using the Meat of the fallen, make ourselves hardier and more capable of surviving longer, build a sand castle, have a bath, and go right back to what we were doing before something turned us into paste. This whole thing, with the nothing filling that time, that feels wrong. I remember talking with others about their own deaths, some people have a dark void and that kinda sucks too. I don't know what's worse actually.
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no. not now. that's not something you hand to someone who's just trying to figure out how things go.]
Probably the worst would be if that void just kept going. Or waking up where you came from, and wondering if everything that happened here was merely some fantastic dream. Your version sounds the nicest, but...where I come from, you're not supposed to come back. So I suppose I'm seeing it all in a very different light.
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After a certain point we don't go into the Afterlife hub, we just...return to the earth and our substance ends up recombining into the next generation's larvae. I heard humans have children to make that happen for them but it's a way more direct line of progression. You produce your young while we kind of become them, after a while.
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[and functionally, she thinks, a kind of immortality. much in the same way some people think about bloodlines, but more exact. it would eliminate people fussing over needing to have heirs and such, which is always a problem in these historical fiction books she's reading where no one seems to figure out who's going to be doing what after they die.
of course, things like children are probably more on the mind when you haven't been in a resurrection loop for the past however long and then moved to a pocket dimension. right now, the most she can muster up is that children definitely exist.]
It is you, but it isn't you, but it still is, depending on the perspective. No, I might be overthinking this.
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[Which he can't really accurately describe for her when size is likely harder to parse when you don't have a visual representation in the first place.]
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What'll it be like, when you're Old Wayne?
[will they still know each other, then?]
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I'll be way bigger. More eyes, more hands, more powerful gestures. Not as much capability of movement though. When you get that large you become kind of cumbersome. But then that's why Old Waynes settle into advisory or guardianship positions.
I talked a little about it with Pratt, what might happen if I were to reach that age before I left this place... If I stay here for too long, will I still physically mature far enough to need to go to ground, or if I'll just adhere to a corner and become a very small Old Wayne because of the complete lack of material besides what my own body provides? The logistics are not in my favor.
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[it's a complete unknown, but that's what lets her be optimistic about it. if this ship can do things like help Ava control her power, return the dead that were in another realm altogether, create something from seemingly nothing...then the idea of Wayne somehow becoming Old Wayne working out isn't the most farfetched thing.]
But that all implies we won't figure out a new place to live before that day dawns. Call it silly, but I'm not so resigned to that yet. Regardless, wherever you metamorphose, we'll have to figure out how to celebrate it.
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[He may already have this idea of gathering all of them into what would essentially be a retirement home, when it comes right down to it. Gotta protect your friends when they can't necessarily protect themselves after all.]
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[a pause, as she eats a strawberry slice.]
If I get smaller when I get older, I'm going to be terribly displeased...
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One day you might even be so small that you'd fit right in in New Muldul.
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[no. she asks every day to be taller. she can't do this.]
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[She's already only about three apples high and now he's imagining that being knocked down to two!]
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[she says this as a declaration, and then eats a spoon of ice cream so fast it makes her pause - ugh. cold headache...]
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Yeah you're probably better off, we might lose you somewhere and that'd suck.
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[she pauses.]
I don't have a very good punishment in mind for that.
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[A good compromise, he feels. He takes a larger bite of his own ice cream at that, and just the same as she had, he ends up with that spike of pain right up behind his eyes. It is the certifiable worst.]
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[there's no good answer to this! meanwhile she's oblivious to Wayne's current set of problems.]
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I feel like that'd just make it like me even less, to be honest...
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[how does everyone not like Wayne, is more the question in her mind.]
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[Though, he'd ended up staying there quietly hanging out for a while watching its tv show until it had dozed off to make sure it was okay and it was generally polite when that happened, so...progress?]
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Would it surprise you if I said that none of that is actually an indication that it doesn't like you, and more a reflection on it instead?
[call her hopeful, but she'd like her friend and her...companion to get along if possible. she can't fix people's relationships, and nor will she try to force people to hold hands, but give someone a few years in your past, and you know a few more things about them than you did.]
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It seems very...dour, I guess. Maybe it's not personal, but it feels bad I can't really do anything about it any more than I can get myself out of here. I can't trust dying to potentially get me home, like you said, and it was saying that potentially finding port somewhere to explore and maybe find answers was a useless endeavor, but I'm just not so sure about that. I know it's been here a lot longer than I have but having no more hope's kind of a sad life to lead.
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Okay, I know it doesn't have a drone nearby, so I can be a little more frank. Security is...a very certain type of person. Do you want me to elaborate?
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Drone?
Oh...uh, sure. I mean if it makes things easier to navigate I'd appreciate the help.
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